Today we explore government taxes not as a technical, economic matter but rather as a political process that reflects social values. My guest is Elise Klein.

Elise Klein is an associate professor of public policy at the Crawford School at the Australian National University and the co-director of the Australian Basic Income Lab. I spoke with Elise in front of a live audience at the Manning Clark House in Canberra for an event called Taxing Times. I’d like to thank Claire Manning and Luciana Todd for organizing and hosting this event.