This is the last show for 2021, so as is the FreshEd tradition, Susan Robertson and Mario Novelli join me to review the year. Our conversation covers a lot of ground. We talk about Covid-19, the role of the State, decolonization, climate change, and pay tribute to two FreshEd guests who passed away this year. It’s been a challenging year for many but there are signs for hope.

Susan Robertson is a professor of education in the Faculty of Education at the university of Cambridge. Mario Novelli is Professor in the Political Economy of Education at the University of Sussex. They are co-editors of the journal Globalisation, Societies, and Education.

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Citation: Robertson, Susan, Novelli, Mario, interview with Will Brehm, FreshEd, 267, podcast audio, December 20, 2021.